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Poster: Executive Date: Mar 30, 2008 7:34pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: 'Beat The Clock

We're both right. Jack Narz hosted the second version of Beat the Clock, which was actually pretty good. It was around from 1969 to 1974. Monty Hall emceed the 1979-1980.

Game Show Network has shown all 3 versions. I think there was a 4th from this century too, but since I never really cared for this particular game show I'll pass.

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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: Mar 30, 2008 7:37pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Game Shows

Did you know that in Australia, It's still common practise to destroy 100's of episodes of Game Shows?

The National Australian Film Archive considers them to be of little value, and only keeps a fraction of a series run.


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Poster: Executive Date: Mar 30, 2008 9:22pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Game Shows

Well, that's certainly shocking news! I never understood why our NBC network deleted a lot of their old tapes of shows from the 1950s and 60s (The Tonight Show with Jack Paar was always in color, but you would never know from the B & W kinescope film copies).

The same goes for some of our old game shows. What's My Line switched to B & W videotape around 1958 and like most series to color in the fall of 1966. None of those tapes survived, but at least 98% of the 17 years worth of episodes did.
Some of the oldest shows from 1950 are missing, although The Game Show Network's collection begins in the 1950-1951 season when Louis Untermeyer was a panelist.

To Tell The Truth (the Bud Collyer classic original) was produced from 1956 until his death in 1968. The tapes of the night-time version from the late 1950s to 1965 no longer exist, and they too are kinescopes. However.....the DAYTIME version's B & W shows are in their original videotaped form, and that includes the color shows in the final 2 years!

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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: Mar 30, 2008 9:40pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Missing TV Shows

Well, At least Kinescopes still exist. Are any episodes of "To Tell The Truth" PD? I don't live in America, So I can't see it. Back to missing mastertapes, The 2nd most important Aussie TV series of the 70's was "Young Talent Time", which almost everybody watched. When documentries show the program, They either use a Kinescope Recording of the 1st episode or a Christmas episodes, Or they use home taped recordings. The Ten Network erased most of the best episodes from what I've heard. Now, the 3rd most important Aussie TV series of the 70's was "Hey Hey It's Saturday", and it's 70's episodes are almost completly gone. The oldest clips ever shown are from the 80's. The 1st most important Aussie TV series of the 70's was "Countdown", and much of it's first 12 months are gone. But then, That's 70's TV.
With Aussie TV from the 50's/60's, Only a tiny amount still exists.

Now, To American TV. You, Of Course, Have heard about how ABC or Metromedia (Depending on who tells the story) destroyed basically the entire DuMont network archive. However, and strangely, A show called "Marge and Jeff" has over 20 surviving episodes, Despite being a flop! I'd love to see some of the Kinescopes, Since it was produced DAILY, and I love low-budget 50's TV.

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Poster: Lil' Joey Date: Oct 3, 2014 1:50pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Game Shows

Hi! Jack Paar's "Tonight" show went to color in late 1960. But there is precious little in the way of black and white kinescopes and I have never seen Jack Paar "latenight" on color tape. A real shame. "What's My Line" was always live during it's 17 year run, except for the occasional tape session to give the cast and crew a break, usually in the summer. The shows that survive (all but about most of the first two years) are preserved on Kinescope. After about 1958 the live telecast would be taped for showing for the west coast, but those tapes were wiped. However we are lucky that Goodsen-Todman did make kinescopes of the show.